Thrasador

I remember this period, and I too recall complaining about it, and I also remember the responses from fanboys about how it isn't that bad, and it's fine, and nothing is broken.... Yet, I don't seem to be having this issue as frequently or to the degree it was when I had originally brought it up.... Guess it magically just fixed itself in a stealth patch....

I am probably one of the most impatient people on the planet. I also like to treat each day like it's my last because you never know when you'll have a piano dropped on your head, or you'll be diagnosed with terminal cancer. Some people just don't have time to waste "waiting." In this instance instead of waiting for Hinterland to recharge their batteries to fix THIS particular game, I should be playing other games that are fun. I just didn't want to move on yet, because typically when I move on I never come back. So in the event I suddenly vanish it's probably because a piano was dropped on my head, I got terminal cancer, or I moved on to another game....

Personally I probably would have waited until patching Wintermute was completed before declaring a month off for everyone. Fixing the mess would be the least that could be done before everyone gets to go into relax mode. We have been waiting over three weeks now for the flare cache to be patched. It was already patched once, but the patch didn't actually fix it. They had the same issue with the bear ear, the bear hide for repairing Jerimiah's coat, and the aurora not appearing for the dam quest. Those were all things that had to be patched multiple times, because the patches didn't even work.... It's pretty frustrating having to wait for patches, but I find it even more frustrating to wait for the same things to be patched multiple times.....

I agree the new "appear as you go: blood trail mechanic mixed with poor animal pathing is fail. If they wanted to add the new blood trail mechanic, they should have fixed injured animal pathing beforehand. This was another poorly planned change on their part. I don't understand why they make constant little changes to everything....like this blood trail thing, and hiding the scent bars on the HUD, but they won't spend time actually improving things we want improved like being able to craft a hat. It's like they complain about not having enough time to program all our ideas, but they spend a tremendous amount of time reprogramming things that were fine in the first place.... How many times have they rebuilt the whole HUD/UI from scratch since the game started development? Look at all these new changes we made! Yeah, we didn't ask for any of those changes.....thanks anyways.... It's just poor use of programming time to constantly tweak things already in the game, instead of adding actual new ideas some people have been requesting for years now. How many more times are they going to change the HUD? Is it finished yet? To be honest they never even actually ever listed all the changes that occured with Wintermute. We have been figuring the changes out on our own for the last month. They never released a change log for Wintermute, and if you go check the Master Change Log thread under News and Updates for August 1st it says something like "too many changes to list them all." Which isn't particularly helpful.... Holy crap I complain A LOT. I really don't mean to complain so much, but it's clear a lot of things are frustrating me with the game. I just want to see more stuff added, like more clothes crafting, and moose, and revisiting cured hides not weighing less, and then lowering crafted clothing weights (because some of them are ridiculous and don't make sense like rabbit mittens). Those changes are much more important to me than hiding the scent bars after a few seconds, and changing blood drops....

Is this still happening despite you sending the team on vacation @Raphael van Lierop? Some(many?) of us have have been waiting for the flare cache to be fixed for over three weeks now, so we can finish Episode 2. I was hoping you were going to send it out Sunday at 2AM like you seem to do, but that was several days ago and no dice....

Awesome....I wonder if they are totally gone, or if you were expected to go back to where they started to make them all gradually appear over again.... They just stop sometimes for me too...I just back up and keep walking over them and turning around until they start going again.... I find the whole thing pretty tedious in general.... The only bit this helps with, is in places where animals criss-cross over their own tracks.....previously that part was very confusing and it could be hard to tell which way to go to continue the trail.... Now the trail only continues if you are following it the right way...

At least it only happened once....and it was 20 years ago....lol! Even drunk, you probably would never forget the time you drank pee....

Thanks for yet another confirmation of this new mechanic, Mike! I appreciate it!

He also won't just accept the fact that they changed the way blood drops appear now since Wintermute and they didn't tell us because they never wrote a change log for Wintermute. I'm sure this was one of the "too many to list them all" changes.... So far every other person in the thread has agreed that the blood drops are now appearing a few at a time, and it's NOT just me... He thinks it's because of my graphics settings or my graphics card even though I have an Nvidia 980M with everything on maximum and all the sliders maxed out.... Did he ever come back and say...."oops my bad?" Well I have a list for that....

If you have never accidentally consumed your own urine, then you have never been drunk in the basement and too lazy to go upstairs to use the bathroom. You would think the beer bottle being warm and not cold would have alerted me to my mistake before putting the bottle to my lips and taking a swig.... Drunkenness causes delayed reaction time.... At least it was MY urine.... Now the time my DAD accidentally drank MY urine....that's a story for another day....

True....I was just mentioning basically the same exact thing happened to another group of devs, and they handled it a completely different way. They told the community what happened, and then said we would have to wait.....because expletive happens....

That is basically what happened to the Battletech people too. I believe they were using Unity as well and in July the new Unity update caused them to basically have to rebuild they whole game from the ground up. Which took them an additional month as well, but they just pushed the release of the beta access back another month about one month before it should have been released.... And they were like, "Sorry the whole game just broke, see you in another month...."

That's the spirit!

I hope you remain active in the forums @WanderingPalm, so far I haven't disagreed with anything you have said, lol.

I typically avoid this by staying outside till the animal dies....I know you said a blizzard rolled in making that pretty much impossible....unless you lit a fire in a cave or something and then passed time.... When I mentioned rest/pass time, I meant after entering a building it's bad. Apparently entering a building causes the bug, and then most people rest or pass time once they enter the building, and then they come out and the animal is alive and well.... So it's best to try to rest or pass time outside to avoid the whole issue...or chop wood, repair clothes, etc....

I gave you a "hint" about five posts up....lol....

Animals are not supposed to survive if you shoot them with a bullet or arrow and they are bleeding, but there has been a bug where entering a building and/or resting/passing time can reset them somehow. Apparently this bug has been around for quite some time and they haven't patched it. Apparently the safest way to ensure your "1 shot, 1 kill" is to just follow the animal until it drops, or pass time while outside, or maybe sit in a car and repair your clothes ( I did that with a bear once). It's tedious, but less tedious than wasting all that time anyways and not getting the kill....

The blood drops have been present for a while, the new bit is the reason I started the thread to ask about it.... The new bit being now the blood drops seem to gradually appear as you follow them, whereas previously all the blood drops were present all at once.... The blood drops slowly appearing a few at a time seems to be a change implemented with Wintermute....along with scent bars not remaining visible on the screen, and having to prepare rose hips and mushrooms first before cooking them. All these changes would have been clear had they released a change log with Wintermute....but they did not. Mel recently added a change log for August 1 in the "Master Change Log" thread under News and Updates, but the changes were listed as: "too many changes to list them all." So it's not a particularly useful change log.... Also, I have an ASUS ROG gaming laptop Intel i7 3.60 ghz(Turbo) 16GB ram and an Nvidia 980M with 4GB of GDDR5 RAM. Specs here for my specific model's barcode model number: https://www.cnet.com/products/asus-rog-g751jy-vs71-wx-17-3-core-i7-4720hq-16-gb-ram-1-tb-hdd-g751jyvs71wx/specs/ I have all settings and sliders on maximum, but shadows turned off (because I don't care about shadows). I haven't changed my graphics settings, and before Wintermute all the blood drops were present all at once, now after Wintermute they are appearing a few at a time. Pretty sure it was a change.... I started this thread to verify that a change happened....

The ledge is pretty far up there, when you get close enough....or parallel to it, you can click on it. Then you get off the rope and can stand on it until your stamina fill up. Like I said though, that climb....even to the ledge, takes A LOT out of you. Even after being fully rested AND drinking a coffee, I was below half rested by the time I got to the ledge. That rope is brutal. Now the sleeping on the ledge bug has never happened to me, but I read about it happening to someone else. Basically after sleeping on the ledge he could no longer click on the rope, because the game was expecting him to click on one end of the rope, or the other....not the middle. Since he had slept there, then his game was saved to a ledge with a rope that couldn't be clicked on....not a position you want to be in. Pretty much means your run is over unless you manage to mountain goat down and not die.... I believe he eventually committed suicide. I think reading that story is what convinced me to start backing up my saves. Permadeath is fine in a game as long as the game doesn't have bugs that can "cheat" you out of a good run. Dying due to that scenario isn't exactly fair....

I never said I didn't like the "visual poem." It is pretty badass! Hopefully someday there will be a movie! Also, I always considered Christopher Plummer to be a "good" actor, but many of his roles are somewhat villainous....so I often want to punch him in the face. Even when he's not going for full on villain....and he's playing like your typical jerk boss, I still want to punch him in the face... His role in the movie " Wolf" with Jack Nicholson, Michelle Pfeiffer, and James Spader comes to mind....

I'd advise against sleeping on the ledge. It may no longer let you select the rope if you do that.....unless they stealth patched it. The best choice is to sleep in the cave down at the bottom until 100% rested, and then drink a coffee at the bottom. That is like the longest rope in the whole game I think. I would take a breather on the ledge to get your stamina back up, and maybe even drink a second coffee on the ledge....but I wouldn't recommend sleeping on the ledge.....

Oh, I love you @JAFO, lol....

Rofl....typical....yeah after harvesting fresh meat.....even if you cook it all, it gives off quite a bit of scent. If you harvested the two guts you were probably at 3 scent bars.... You need to book it back to base after you harvest something, and PRAY a pack of wolves don't smell you....

I've gone too fast before and had them just stop too....I circled back and walked back and forth over them a few times and spun around until they went again....I think that worked.... But I'll just add it to the list of another semi-annoying change that no one mentioned.....

That's a super good idea....I think I even have heard that before, but I keep forgetting to try it. Then once I do try it....I will need to make it a habbit....