Pneumonia.

[Bjern]

If you keep wearing very wet clothes, this could risk pneumonia, which would be a real danger in a survival situation. This would be similar to risking hypothermia when you are too cold for too long.

There have been posts regarding getting sick, and this would be a preventable illness.

[Boston123]

Pnumonia is caused by a virus or bacteria, not merely being wet. Same thing with a "cold"; it isn't caused by merely being cold.

Now, being wet or cold for long periods of time will depress your immune system, but it won't make you sick in and of itself, merely make it easier for you to get sick.

And, if there are no other people in the sandbox, there isn't really a way to get sick via communicable disease.

[thekillergreece]

I beg to differ. Excessivelly drinking/eating COLD stuff SHOULD give you pneumonia

[Boston123]

2 hours ago, thekillergreece said:

I beg to differ. Excessivelly drinking/eating COLD stuff SHOULD give you pneumonia

Again, how would that cause you to get sick via virus or bacteria?

You people do know what pneumonia is, right?

[Bjern]

7 hours ago, Boston123 said:

Pnumonia is caused by a virus or bacteria, not merely being wet. Same thing with a "cold"; it isn't caused by merely being cold.

Now, being wet or cold for long periods of time will depress your immune system, but it won't make you sick in and of itself, merely make it easier for you to get sick.

And, if there are no other people in the sandbox, there isn't really a way to get sick via communicable disease.

Valid points, but would you agree that you would be at risk of getting sick if you were wearing cold and wet clothing for a long time? Being cold and wet are no guarantee of getting sick, I agree, but it does have a risk factor which could be considered for this sort of thing, while not deviating from realism. It certainly could be a very low risk, but would you say that there is no risk at all?

[Bjern]

7 hours ago, thekillergreece said:

I beg to differ. Excessivelly drinking/eating COLD stuff SHOULD give you pneumonia

Is this a troll post?

[Boston123]

1 hour ago, Bjern said:

Valid points, but would you agree that you would be at risk of getting sick if you were wearing cold and wet clothing for a long time? Being cold and wet are no guarantee of getting sick, I agree, but it does have a risk factor which could be considered for this sort of thing, while not deviating from realism. It certainly could be a very low risk, but would you say that there is no risk at all?

The disease has to be present, either from another person or in the environment, in order to develop a disease. Since there are no other people present, and the temperature isn't really all that conductive to microbiological survival.....

Being cold, wet, hungry or tired merely decreases the effective "strength" of your immune system, due to stress.

[SteelFire]

2 hours ago, Bjern said:

Valid points, but would you agree that you would be at risk of getting sick if you were wearing cold and wet clothing for a long time? Being cold and wet are no guarantee of getting sick, I agree, but it does have a risk factor which could be considered for this sort of thing, while not deviating from realism. It certainly could be a very low risk, but would you say that there is no risk at all?

There are already risks associated with it. Wet clothes have decreasing warmth factors the more wet they are, reducing down to zero when freezing. That makes you get colder, quicker increasing your risk of a 'freezing' status, which starts reducing condition on its own (I think it's the fastest condition reduction too) and creating the risk of hypothermia. As well, frozen clothes bring the risk of frostbite which can cause a permanent condition reduction.

[thekillergreece]

6 hours ago, Bjern said:

Is this a troll post?

No?

[Rolandtigerfish]

On 1/15/2017 at 10:36 AM, Boston123 said:

Pnumonia is caused by a virus or bacteria, not merely being wet. Same thing with a "cold"; it isn't caused by merely being cold.

Now, being wet or cold for long periods of time will depress your immune system, but it won't make you sick in and of itself, merely make it easier for you to get sick.

And, if there are no other people in the sandbox, there isn't really a way to get sick via communicable disease.

Viruses and bacteria have a domancy period that can indeed last for hundreds sometimes thousands of years. Source check with ice core samples done within the permafrost layer.  Ergo looting corpese of food would be a way to catch it.

[Bjern]

6 hours ago, Rolandtigerfish said:

Viruses and bacteria have a domancy period that can indeed last for hundreds sometimes thousands of years. Source check with ice core samples done within the permafrost layer.  Ergo looting corpese of food would be a way to catch it.

What about wildlife carriers of the virus? There's a lot of interaction with wildlife in the game.

[heck]

On 1/15/2017 at 8:09 PM, Boston123 said:

The disease has to be present, either from another person or in the environment, in order to develop a disease. Since there are no other people present, and the temperature isn't really all that conductive to microbiological survival.....

Being cold, wet, hungry or tired merely decreases the effective "strength" of your immune system, due to stress.

All of this is true, but pneumonia can be conceivably contacted in two other ways, given the situation in the game:

1) Psittacosis, a bacteria transmissible from birds to humans that causes pneumonia in the human host and excessive fluid discharge in the bird, could be contracted in-game through the handling of crow feathers and carcasses circled by crows. Honestly, I'm not a fan of this option, as it would require a lot more effort from the devs and a frankly unnecessary risk from simply picking up feathers.

2) Aspiration pneumonia occurs when any large particles enter the lungs and cannot be expelled with coughing. Bacteria (aspirated with the foreign particles from colonies in the mouth/throat) multiplies and causes infection and fluid buildup in the lungs. The way I could see this happening in-game is as a consequence of falling through thin ice--most people gasp from the shock of the cold, and if they drop in far enough to have sucked some water into their lungs, they're at high risk for aspiration pneumonia, especially with an immune system suppressed by the stressors of surviving. 

[SteelFire]

18 minutes ago, heck said:

All of this is true, but pneumonia can be conceivably contacted in two other ways, given the situation in the game:

1) Psittacosis, a bacteria transmissible from birds to humans that causes pneumonia in the human host and excessive fluid discharge in the bird, could be contracted in-game through the handling of crow feathers and carcasses circled by crows. Honestly, I'm not a fan of this option, as it would require a lot more effort from the devs and a frankly unnecessary risk from simply picking up feathers.

2) Aspiration pneumonia occurs when any large particles enter the lungs and cannot be expelled with coughing. Bacteria (aspirated with the foreign particles from colonies in the mouth/throat) multiplies and causes infection and fluid buildup in the lungs. The way I could see this happening in-game is as a consequence of falling through thin ice--most people gasp from the shock of the cold, and if they drop in far enough to have sucked some water into their lungs, they're at high risk for aspiration pneumonia, especially with an immune system suppressed by the stressors of surviving. 

The condition loss from zero warmth wet clothes and/or freezing and frostbite will get you before the aspiration pneumonia could develop... if you weren't smart enough to seek shelter and get dried out. And let's be real, under the conditions we're in, alone and with only first aid care options, pneumonia would almost certainly be a death sentence.