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On 4/1/2019 at 7:03 AM, Drifter Man said:

Congrats to the "decimal man" ! 

My scientific obsession is long gone - the days when I twiddled my thumbs in the Dam and counted sticks are a distant memory... your graph tells me that it's cold out there :D

Ah, it would have been so much better to have succeeded with BareSkin30 :D

On 4/1/2019 at 9:40 AM, Dan_ said:

Great run, hopefully rescue comes soon and she gets to retire in a warm and non-wolfey beach somewhere on the tropics. :coffee:

On your request, she sent a pic of her last hike. Spring in Desolation Point!

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Extreme Sleepwalking is here!

Bareskin32 was Cinderella Challenge (Voyager, survive naked 30 in Old Island Connector)

BareSkin33- D1 [Sleepwalker level 8] – ALL NEEDS "Very high"

Since it was my first attempt, I didn't write anything down for him, so comic strip again:

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Go figure why, at that time I decide I'll sleep in Milton tonight

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This Moose forces me to make a HUGE detour

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Here's my death sentence: while detouring the Moose. Go Rose hips but no ignition. Can't take a rope, and down in Milton Basin with no bedroll. That was stupid.

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Even more stupid: I should have known from the begining that even unsprained the Fatigue loss made this plan an insult to any form of intelligence. I actually never went up to Milton from here, didn't realize it was that much of a climb.

 I just quit the game a delete the save.

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There is a way to make this strategy work, you just need to luck out on getting  a pack of matches from the green containers at the shortwave tower, then sleep in the pickup truck by Milton Basin, there's food and firewood by the cave and the rocky refuge and plenty of rosehip for sprains. 

 

EDIT: That said, I used to get a random firestriker from a corpse under the little rock alcove on the creek side of the tower, but I haven't found him in ages. Did hinterland remove that firestriker spawn?

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2 hours ago, Dan_ said:

There is a way to make this strategy work, you just need to luck out on getting  a pack of matches from the green containers at the shortwave tower, then sleep in the pickup truck by Milton Basin, there's food and firewood by the cave and the rocky refuge and plenty of rosehip for sprains. 

 

EDIT: That said, I used to get a random firestriker from a corpse under the little rock alcove on the creek side of the tower, but I haven't found him in ages. Did hinterland remove that firestriker spawn?

Was there a firestriker spawn in Forlorn Muskeg? I think it must be gone as I have never found it on my Keg Stand runs. That would change the game.

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5 hours ago, Gooner77 said:

Was there a firestriker spawn in Forlorn Muskeg? I think it must be gone as I have never found it on my Keg Stand runs. That would change the game.

It was random, occasionally there would be a corpse on that rocky alcove to the right of the fenced path leading up to the tower, that corpse had a chance to have a firestriker, that was many updates ago though. I haven't found it in ages, though I usually do not do many loper starts, my only two survivors are 300+ days old. 

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2 hours ago, Dan_ said:

It was random, occasionally there would be a corpse on that rocky alcove to the right of the fenced path leading up to the tower, that corpse had a chance to have a firestriker, that was many updates ago though. I haven't found it in ages, though I usually do not do many loper starts, my only two survivors are 300+ days old.  

The idea seems to remind me some firestrikers indeed. Also true I've never found anything of value under this little arch for decades...

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BareSkin34- D1 [Sleepwalker level 8]

Still no written journal for him. I wish I could resize pic like @Gooner77, but I don't.

 

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Matches AND maglens? God, could I be more lucky?

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Perfect weather when I leave for looting the other cabins

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10 minutes later when I arrive at the Bear Cabin... My luck will be balanced by weather gods it seems.

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I’m actually just taking screen shots from VLC player as I write the story. 

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BareSkin34- D5-ish? [Sleepwalker level 8]

In the Bear Cabin, I find a small golden treasure:

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Back at the Overlook, for food I guess

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Arrived at my pivotal point of many of my runs. You can't find a best snaring place, period.

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With the other nearby carcass, the food is not enough to wait for curing guts. I'll have to go Milton Bowl tomorrow or next day, for the cattails and the rabbits.

Fuel will be a nice bonus too.

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Dafuq? What is this new bear path? never seen him there...

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The occasion was too good, let's go Milton Bowl only tomorrow. Need the matches, fuel, teas. Rabbits will be a bonus.

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So the next day, I'm headed to the Jeremiah Bowl in the best weather of all times. I drop everything heavy before climbing down, goat my way to Paradise, snap 2 rabbits, miss a third one, take tons of teas, grab the matches in the cave when... I suddenly hear string winds while getting the coals, and the screen turns blue.

My biggest nightmare became reality. I actually never went down the Ravine for fear of being trapped 1 rope away from safety. What a joke. It's Sleepwalker, my temp bar is not that high, if I wait in the cave with a fire I'm dead, cause once exhausted I'll be trapped in there. And on SW8 like on deadman, exhaustion come very quickly. I have no choice, I have to make it to safety as soon as possible, no matter the risks. Any risk is better that sure death.

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I think the rope to Trapper's is smaller than the one to Orca. By the pure will of gods, I make it to the top of the rope. I might survive this after all.

 

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Yep, the rope going to ML is much shorter than the rope towards the park office. This looks every bit as brutal as deadman. 

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11 hours ago, Dan_ said:

Yep, the rope going to ML is much shorter than the rope towards the park office. This looks every bit as brutal as deadman. 

Sounds legit, since this is the last step of the mode that links Interloper to Deadman ;)

Contrary to Deadman, I thought the weather should not change that fast. But it actually can change as fast, but not as frequently as in Deadman. Anyway, it takes only one brutal change to make you dead!

BareSkin34- Week2 [Sleepwalker level 8]

The weather is so bad, I already lost a ton of health because of freezing, I'm exhausted so can't sprint to the cave. If I push on, I'm dead before arriving to shelter. So, I find a somewhat-shielded corner to heat up a bit.

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Then I wait for the blizzard to end, and wait more, and more, and more... I have lot of potential teas, but my cooking recipients are few meters away, I dropped them before goating down.

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But truly, I can't stay here all night long, right?

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The winds have the same opinion, they turn, kill my fire and force me to take a deep breath and try my luck. Run walk for my life. Without any warmth bonus, cause that'd be too easy.

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Of course, it's flat. All I needed was to be even slower. Doesn't sound nice, but I push on anyway. I didn't think I could mitigate the wind until the cave. Sleepwalking definitely teaches you shielded path, every bit of health is so precious.

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I earned the right to live a bit more. But let's be honest, the game is over in sleepwalking with 3% health back everyday, at best. It would take 2 weeks to get back to half-decent, and in two weeks I'd be on day 30 without forged tools.

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BareSkin34- Day7 [Sleepwalker level 8]

Because this is not really over, I just try to survive:

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I navigate the cave under tea, light another fire at the other side for full warmup.

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Despite the time spent in the cave, the blizzard isn't over yet! It started just after noon... I'll find Trapper's only because I know the place by memory:

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Home sweet home

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The next morning, I check my situation now that I'm calm: I'm obviously dead, either by starvation here, either wolfed or frozen trying to find food within the week.

I delete the save.

 

I've died several times from being too cautious. That was not one of them.

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BareSkin35- D1 [Sleepwalker level 8]

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My preferred one. Scientific reality.

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Could have been statistically better.

- Spawn in TWM at midnight just above the MHut, grab 4 shrooms and run for shelter in very poor visibility due to snow+fog that immediately drops on me

-I’m lucky, no howling from the lake. Honestly, if a wolf was here I couldn’t see him between the snowflakes. I run to cross the lake

- Grab a stick before entering, for tinder. It’s FL-10 in the hut and find a crap vest, so I immediately proceed to making fire , drop 2 cedars, and jump in the bed to clear hyporisk.

- Nice 42% tuke in the hatch, the usual sewing kit. Grab a 24% torch… no luck

- Starting in TWM with a blizzard is really not that easy. Wonder how I will survive the morning, since it’s 3 AM and I have no fuel left. I couldn't even full my tempbar without going outside for sticks.

- before the fire dies, the blizzard have the good idea to die as well, that’ll be a huge help since my tempbar starts to effectively fill up

-I tear down my socks to repair my tuke

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- I head outside to find some sticks and to extend the fire duration. Can’t see a thing, but thankls to some snowballing attempts I manage somehow to exchange my tempbar for 15sticks.

-I wait for the fire to die to check to temperature: FL-6 at 5AM, it should make it, I immediately jump into the +5° bed for 1h sleep: fine, lost only 10% of tempbar. 1 more hour, still 75% of tempbar, I’m good, I continue sleeping in 1h chunks until I can’t rest anymore.

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Gamble your life: episode 1

BareSkin35- D2 [Sleepwalker level 8]

Realize I kept the @tulkawen writing style... I'll go back to sentences. Blizzard mid-morning, the temperatures drop. I try to mitigate damage by staying in the bed

Mid -afternoon, the second blizzard stops (that's 2 in 12 hours) but I have only half my temp bar, FL-8 outside but if I don’t leave, I’ll have to spend one more night here. This is what I choose to do, since anyway if I go now I wont make it the the Farmstead, and I’ll die from dehydration in the bunker (been there, done that).

I head to the cattails bay (*14) and some sticks, back inside for warmup, 2 rabbits, back inside, more cattails. At nightfall, the weather is nice, I continue looting the lake, empty of wolf, and I’m happy I decided to stay here one more day. The stalks are the sleepwalker’s best friends. 35 stalks total after midnight loot, plus still 2 rabbits to harvest for my inevitable morning fire.

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Stomach says thank you

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40 minutes ago, BareSkin said:

Realize I kept the @tulkawen writing style... I'll go back to sentences. Blizzard mid-morning, the temperatures drop. I try to mitigate damage by staying in the bed

I call it the anti-wolf ninja writing style. In case any ninja wolves are spying on my survivor via reading, they won't be able to understand anything.

😎

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BareSkin35- D2 (in-game journal) [Sleepwalker level 8]

At around 3AM I wake up in a blizzard. Again. I have to start my fire too soon, it’s not good. I need 3.5h to get positive FL. I don’t have to regret not harvesting the rabbit before, since anyway the second spot will be available for at least 5h. I patiently wait for the meat to thaw.

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Cook the rabbit, and also some teas for when I’ll be leaving. At 7 AM, the fire is killed and I have to baby sit it. Only 9 sticks left for babysitting, let’s hope it gets us through this cold morning blizzard. Lost 2h worth of fire, but the cold is the main enemy here. On the lake, the wolf is on duty today, he must wonder where did all the cattails go. I think of times when I would just have died in my bed with such a bad weather.

The best temperatures give me FL-14, not that great, my clothes are crap, really. But I need to move, or I'll be dead soon.

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Pure nothingness in the bunker. Like, really, it’s void, not even full of crap. Took cold damage on the trip, down to 80%.

Sleep 1h for short warmup, then outside to the stove, for filling up tempbar before leaving, and making tea.  I don’t want to spent the night here, I died like this in another life. I earn a second recycled can for my efforts. Jackpot: 12 matches in the backpack! But it’ll be dusk very soon, I have maybe 2hr of light left. Farmstead, barn, Dodger’s? Hard choice. My main problem is clothing, so I should hit farmstead soon.

FL-14, Grandma's fog and I have a tea ready: let’s try to make it to the Red Barn! The time I spend looting Point of disagreement, is wasted, since I find no matches (1 candy bar tho). More than half tempbar is empty already, it’s obviously to late for my clothing status, so I abort the plan and come back to the nearest bed, the bunker.

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Eating cattails stalks in my rags, sleep 6h. I decide it’ll be Skeeter’s for Dodger’s. I need the closest bed.

BareSkin35- D3 [Sleepwalker level 8]

Midnight, drink my 2 sodas. Sleep until rested (1AM). At 4AM I head outside for a dawn fire. The weather is not cold enough to really benefit a bonus: AT-25.

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At noon I leave for Skeeter’s and make it to the basement just before freezing: 1 dog food, 2 cedars, antibiotics, 1 more sewing kit, and the cloth I came for: that’s a poor hoodie.

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At 3PM I’m at 40% tempbar, I run to the rope, goat the second part to Dodger’s, I take 1% cold damage because I snap a rabbit before entering. I find antibiotics (again, would have preferred tramadol), and more importantly curtains and a bed.

It’s dusk when I finish harvesting the curtains and the meat, I’m only at 25% tempbar thanks to poor clothing: I’ll have to spend the night in here. Pleasant Valley is so huge.

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I got my goating license, officer.

The place gives nice sticks and shrooms stocks (5 teas), and I repair the jeans twice to 96% (1fail). But I don’t manage to snap other rabbits, they’re gone after my 1h pause in the Cabin.

I get Well Fed while looking for rabbits in the midnight light, to no avail. 6h of sleeping bring me in the coldest hours.

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15 hours ago, BareSkin said:

On the lake, the wolf is on duty today, he must wonder where did all the cattails go.

😂 If it gets any colder he might start wondering where did his coat go too.

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I'm kind of confused.

In your codes you have level 0 to level 7. What are these? Are they all Interloper difficulties or they're different modes like pilgrim, voyager etc? If they're all Loper, then which one is harder 0 or 7?

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The Sleepwalking modes Interloper-style go from 0 to 9. The sub-interloper flavours have not been named or numbered.

0 is the easiest. Level 8 is the hardest, arguably the level 9 is not a sleepwalker, since there is no recovery at all. All the updated codes for current version are here:

http://www.hinterlandforums.com/forums/topic/21679-bored-of-interloper-try-sleepwalking/?do=findComment&comment=152307

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BareSkin35- D4 [Sleepwalker level 8]

I wake up in strong winds, pre-blizzard weather. I still start my outside fire, praying they don’t turn. The mission is to cook the rabbit, 40min of luck would be enough. Once eaten, the calorie situation is still critical: 13 cattails left.

Mid-morning, the weather turns bad, but I get 2 rabbits. You can’t get everything, right? I lose 5% health for those calories, not sure it’s a good tradeoff. While harvesting them, I find a well hidden Granola bar I immediately smash into my mouth.

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This is how you chase rabbit. Take advantage of their naiveness.

Noon, time for a fire (3 fails at 60% chance) to cook the rabbit, warm up a tea and get going in the warm hours, direction the Red Barn. Of course 10 minutes before the fire dies, a blizzard kicks in. Very Pleasant indeed. I’m protected so I decide to babysit my fire to make water (never have too much), and very nice 42% torches, hoping for a short blizzard.

3 days, 3 blizzards, crap clothes, I don’t feel that lucky… 2h of babysitting later, I’ve cooked all my teas I have 3L of water:, I abandon that idea of a short blizzard: it’s dusk, and anyway I’m too tired.

3h later (9PM) it’s even worst, I’d be facing the winds. Blizzard ends at 10PM, but the fog doesn’t lift: being too brave, I’d die lost in PV. 9 stalks left, and 40% of stomach.

 

BareSkin35- D5 [ Sleepwalker level 8]

Around 2AM the fog lifts a bit, I run for the barn, with my torch. FL-19.

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After lighting the barrel with my dying lit torch, starting water, I pull a new torch for the lootz: 1 cured gut and a stim are the only but nice finds upstairs. I wish I’d find Catherine. Before going downstairs, I notice a very nicely hidden dog 76% food can. Ground floor: I mistake a downed fire barrel for bedroll (no comments: when you really want one, you see one), whetstone, CATHERINE, my dear! It’s been a long time! I hug her.

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If only I knew I’d find a cured gut, I’d have harvested rabbit pelts.

Once my tempbar is up, it’s 4AM but there’s no wind and no fog: I drink a reishi and run to the Farmstead. Everything goes fine, this warm bonus is really nice. At the Farmstead, there’s a deer carcass: I must decide quickly, but since I love my matches and since it’s the cold hours, I start the fire nearby and begin getting meat with Catherine. I drop it immediately, as I know I’m in a bear territory and I don’t hear that much wolves. Maybe for a reason.

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I’m really nervous but everything goes as planned. But of course it’s pleasant valley so my 3.5h fire is killed 30min later, I babysit the fire a bit to finish cooking the last steak, which is the most important, and run back to the basement.

Im exhausted but still loot the place while waiting to warm up a bit before going to sleep upstairs: 12 matches, cured leather, second quality tools (first at Skeeter’s), antibiotics again, 17% sports socks. I deserved a good sleeping now.

Loot upstairs in the house: dress shirt better than my plaid one, wool socks, new jeans, 3 canned food, cooking pot, crappy sports vest again. Still no gloves or coat.

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On 4/15/2019 at 5:18 AM, BareSkin said:

if I go now I wont make it the the Farmstead, and I’ll die from dehydration in the bunker (been there, done that).

:D

6 hours ago, BareSkin said:

CATHERINE, my dear! It’s been a long time! I hug her.

Be careful - she's sharp!

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I was going to play TLD last night. Instead i ended up finding and binge reading Cindrella story by @BareSkin. Alas, the season ended(looking forward to the HRV trials) leaving me with a much healthier respect for science, a sore side from laughter(thank you, been needing that,) new strategies galore, and strangely an urge to strip to my britches and run around outside in the snow. After realizing i now do not have the time for actually playing anymore, i choose instead to sacrifice some more sleep because i have stumbled upon sleepwalkers 1. More reading ensues.Lots more actually, because here i am at sleepwalker 8, realizing i am no longer in the past but instead wondering what is going to happen next. ☺️

I am so glad to see such enthusiasm for this game, even when talking about exploits or flaws, you state it with a shrug, like meh, the fellows up top will get to it, no worries. I can't wait for more! well done survivor. 

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1 hour ago, ogreranger said:

...More reading ensues.Lots more actually, because here i am at sleepwalker 8, realizing i am no longer in the past but instead wondering what is going to happen next. ☺️

Good thing for your health you didn't end up reading the first Bareskins' ! Eery one needs a good sleep! I'm not criticizing, I did the same when discovering the Snowball. I still remember that day, gladly TLD is niche, my workplace firewall let me have a very unproductive day.

Anyway, thanks for the praise and interaction, really. It's oftentimes a bit of loneliness reporting the journals for 'nobody'. Here's the next episode, as a reward!

17 hours ago, Drifter Man said:
23 hours ago, BareSkin said:

CATHERINE, my dear! It’s been a long time! I hug her.

Be careful - she's sharp!

I sometimes like it rough... Feeling alive does not come cheap these days.

BareSkin35- D6 [ Sleepwalker level 8]

Mid-morning, after a nice 12h rest, I head outside to finish the deer (guts+pelt). It’s too windy, so I harvest the rabbit guts before the weather calms down. The bear is on patrol, I’m cautious to start my job when he shows me its butt.

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Typical Pleasant Valley

Afternoon FL-9, I go to the waterfall for a third rabbit pelt, and under the rope for one more deer skin. Only half a kilo on the deer, disappointed. Missed all the rabbits except one I immediately dropped for security but couldn't find back. Too exhausted to look for it more, and I hate backpedaling. The path is clear on my way back in aurora sounds. Buddy Bear still here. Didn't turn green yet.

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I repair my wool socks under electric light. For the fun of it, mainly.

BareSkin35- D7 [ Sleepwalker level 8]

Today’s mission is to get one more rabbit pelt near the waterfall, and optionally some sticks. I eat my last canned food, it’s gonna be another problem soon, only 10 cattails left (from the waterfall).

I craft a snare with the cured gut I found. Having a snare can be a life saver, plus I have the 6 others guts needed for mitts+boots. Mid-afternoon weather is horrible (as usual), nothing much I can do except slowly starving. 5 stalks and 30% stomach left.

6 blizzards in 7 days… Read a bit of Wilderness Kitchen in the Farmstead porch before going to sleep… or not! At 11 PM the winds die, the light is quite nice, I go chase my next rabbit pelts in FL-15 moonlight, since I spent the day doing nothing I still have a lot of “awakeness”. It's cold enough to make me decide to spend a match immediately, just for the warmth it provides. Lost this habit with previous update since it was bugged.

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At midnight the weather clears up even more, the rabbits have absolutely no chance and join me in my survival adventures.

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On 4/16/2019 at 5:41 PM, BareSkin said:

The Sleepwalking modes Interloper-style go from 0 to 9. The sub-interloper flavours have not been named or numbered.

0 is the easiest. Level 8 is the hardest, arguably the level 9 is not a sleepwalker, since there is no recovery at all. All the updated codes for current version are here:

What would be the difference between lvl 9 Sleepwalker and Deadman if lvl 9 doesn't let you heal either?

The way I organized it in my brain:

Regular Loper: night healing

Sleepwalker: Day healing

Deadman: No healing

I like having lvl 0 to lvl 9. I find regular Loper difficult. I believe I survived lvl 0 Loper game longer than any regular Loper games. I'm thinking lvl 0 might actually be a bit easier for me due to temperatures.

What would be the difference between lvl 0 and lvl 8 Sleepwalker? I imagine you only heal daytime and probably gain something like 0.25% per non sleeping hour? Lvl 0 daytime heal is probably higher.

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1 hour ago, tulkawen said:

What would be the difference between lvl 9 Sleepwalker and Deadman if lvl 9 doesn't let you heal either?

The way I organized it in my brain:

Regular Loper: night healing

Sleepwalker: Day healing

Deadman: No healing

I like having lvl 0 to lvl 9. I find regular Loper difficult. I believe I survived lvl 0 Loper game longer than any regular Loper games. I'm thinking lvl 0 might actually be a bit easier for me due to temperatures.

What would be the difference between lvl 0 and lvl 8 Sleepwalker? I imagine you only heal daytime and probably gain something like 0.25% per non sleeping hour? Lvl 0 daytime heal is probably higher.

Deadman has all the other nasty effects, for example the worst settings for weather (more blizzards, more often, etc) and wolves (more numerous, more agressive?)

For difference between level 0 to level 8, it's about the needs, I refer you to the same post I mentioned before, and which is also linked in all entries of this journal, in the day title. If you felt sleepwalker temperatures to be easier than loper, maybe it's just before you're getting better? It's the same as Loper.

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21 minutes ago, BareSkin said:

If you felt sleepwalker temperatures to be easier than loper, maybe it's just before you're getting better? It's the same as Loper.

 

I don't ever remember my Loper games giving me anything better than -7C, whereas on Sleepwalker I had some evenings when the temp was in small plus. Maybe it's the location? I think all my starter games for some reason dumped me into the Pleasant Valley. I've been dumped at DP too though, but hardly stayed. That's where that Gandalf Moose trampled me within the first hour. 'This be my bridge. You shall not pass!'

Anyway, I don't know how I've learned to deal with the cold, but running around occasionally in +1 is way better than always having -20C on a 'warm' day. :D

I just remember temperatures in all my early Loper games were ranging something like -15C to -50C and I was freezing freezing freezing all the time to a point of frustration.

21 minutes ago, BareSkin said:

For difference between level 0 to level 8, it's about the needs, I refer you to the same post I mentioned before, and which is also linked in all entries of this journal, in the day title.

 

You know how I am with reading charts and diagrams. 🤣:P

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